In 2010 I found myself in the middle of a career change having just become a financial adviser and, what I found is, I needed a way to grow my customer base and to gain new clients and, I was out searching for some sort of a group to join, be at a lead group or referral group, whatever fashion I might find. A group of people that had like minds who were interested in growing their business and helping other people do the same, you know, with each other's help. And so, I started looking and, I started visiting and checking out things through Chambers of Commerce and other organizations that are in the marketplace and, I really had two problems. My first one was that, I really found there was lack of substance in overall meetings that I was attending. People gathered, they had lunch, they had breakfast, there was some business conversation and the substance just wasn't there. And, I also was finding that because these groups were business category exclusive, there was really lack of availability so, there was nothing in my marketplace for me really to be able to join, to actually fulfill what I was looking for in in growing my business connections and contacts. So, I kind of reflected and said, you know, I've been through the years and my past career, I've been in many different groups, from weekly groups, monthly groups, free groups, everything in between and just simply said to myself, well, just start a group for yourself and help benefit people that you know and, people that you want to get to know and, to collectively learn to grow your businesses together and, let's just kind of walk down this path and see where I go. So, in October of 2010 the very first 4BR group was started and eight and a half years later, I think we are on to something good.